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[00:00:02] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. IPL radio. [00:00:07] Speaker B: Good afternoon, everybody. This is the Family. This is the family show on IPL Radio. My name is Toby and I'm. [00:00:14] Speaker C: Hello. Hello. It is the Family show. I am Amy. [00:00:20] Speaker B: I am Toby. [00:00:23] Speaker C: And we are live here from IPL Radio, Rockingham, Western Australia. We are having a good chat about. What are we talking about today? [00:00:36] Speaker B: Ethics. [00:00:37] Speaker C: Ethics. So we were. How did it come about that we decided that we were going to talk about ethics on today's show? [00:00:44] Speaker B: We were listening to. You were reading a book to nni. [00:00:52] Speaker C: Yep. [00:00:53] Speaker B: And the name of the book is Keeper of Lost Cities. [00:00:56] Speaker C: Yes. We're very slow with the theory. [00:01:00] Speaker B: I'm just thinking about just grabbing the book. They're just reading it by myself. [00:01:03] Speaker C: Oh, please don't. Because I really enjoy Keeper of Lost City. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Maybe I can get it from the library. [00:01:08] Speaker C: Maybe, Maybe. But I don't want you to give away. [00:01:11] Speaker B: I won't. [00:01:12] Speaker C: What's happening? You won't. Okay, cool. Because I really enjoy reading that with you guys. But it mentioned ethics and you asked me what are ethics? And so we went deep diving into learning about what ethics are. And so we are talking about ethics today and the difference between ethics, rules and laws on today's show. And yeah, we're gonna have a little bit of fun and our regular segments later in the show. Yep, absolutely. [00:01:41] Speaker B: This is Can't Stop the Feeling by Justin Timberlake. [00:01:46] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. IPL radio. [00:01:51] Speaker B: Good afternoon, everybody. This is the family. This is the family show on IPL Radio. My name is Toby and I am Amy. And I am Anne. That was Dance Monkey by Tones and I. If you're only just joining us, this is the famous show on IPL Radio. My name is Toby and I am Amy. I've been muddling up my. Muddling up my words this whole show. [00:02:18] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's okay. We have. We have days like that. I have days like that as well. Even when I'm talking to adults, I do it sometimes as well. [00:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:28] Speaker C: So we are talking about ethics and we're talking about how the. The topic came up because we were just reading a book and I like to, when we're reading a book, encourage you guys to ask questions. And then we go, sometimes we'll deep dive and we'll find the answers to your questions. And last week we were reading a book and the topic of ethics came out. So that's what we're talking about. And over the weekend we were actually, we were looking at laws and ethics and Rules and all that sort of stuff. And we went and had a democracy sausage, didn't we? Yes. Yum, yum, yum. And so we were voting for the leader for the Prime Minister of Australia who's going to take on that role. And, you know, that's the person that will help create rules and laws and lots of different things within Australia. And they'll look at ethical concerns in that role, won't they? [00:03:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:38] Speaker C: Do you think they would? [00:03:39] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:03:40] Speaker C: Yeah. I think it's very, very important that they look at laws and what's ethical. [00:03:44] Speaker B: And rules and stuff like that. Like, there's. So there's. There's three things and they're quite similar, but they're all different. Like same, same, but different. [00:03:57] Speaker C: Yeah. So can you explain those three things that. How they're same, same, different, different. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Okay, so ethics is like, let me think. It's a rule. It's like a. It's not a rule. It's like the right thing to do and you don't. Is not a rule. Like, it's not like saying you, you have to do it. It's just the right thing to do and to be polite and stuff like that. And then rules and laws are more similar than ethics and rules and laws. So rules are like you're not allowed to do this. [00:04:40] Speaker C: Yep. Say at school or at home. [00:04:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And whereas for a law, a law is like, it's a little bit deeper than a rule. It's like you're not allowed to steal kind of thing. [00:04:56] Speaker C: Absolutely. And it's more. There holds a higher consequence if you don't follow a law as opposed to a rule. You know, there's a consequence if you don't follow a rule. You usually. Sometimes. But there's a higher consequence if you don't follow the law. [00:05:14] Speaker B: And then. Whereas ethics doesn't really have any. Well, it does, but it doesn't really. It's just. It doesn't have as much of a consequence because of its. Like you have a choice. [00:05:28] Speaker C: Correct. But what type of consequence do you think could come with not choosing to do something ethically? [00:05:41] Speaker B: Say, let's for example, say a kid was peeking his nose in public. [00:05:46] Speaker C: Oh, gosh, gross. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:50] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. [00:05:51] Speaker B: Okay. [00:05:52] Speaker C: I love your examples. But still the thought of it is gross. [00:05:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And then the mother is like, that's not. Okay, stop doing that. [00:06:02] Speaker C: Yep. [00:06:03] Speaker B: And then that's an ethical situation. Like an ethical situation. Ethical. Let me find the word consequence. Consequence. Like, do you think it's a. [00:06:16] Speaker C: What would be the consequence? It's just if someone tells you don't do it, or thinking, you know, like, I just did. Like, oh, that's gross. Like, it's just, you know, those ethics are being considerate of other people around you. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah. And people who just like. Like, yeah, that's just gross. And then run away. [00:06:39] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so we were talking about, off air, what ethics are, and we've kind of just touched on it a little bit about, you know, the difference between ethics, rules and laws. Can you tell me a little bit more about what ethics are? Like, it's the difference between right and. [00:07:04] Speaker B: It'S the difference between doing the easy way or the right way. [00:07:10] Speaker C: Yep, yep. So, yeah, it could be easy. Right. Or the difference between right and wrong. [00:07:17] Speaker B: And for example, for that, like a kid wouldn't clean his room. Mm. But then he get convinced to do it, but he doesn't actually do it properly. He does. He just gets. Just stuffs it in, like under his bed and around bigger toys. That covers it up and putting it under and, like stuffing it in toys. [00:07:46] Speaker C: Yep. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Like other toys. And it's. And that's the wrong thing to do. Like, that's the easy way to do it. And the right way to do it would be putting it away in the basket that it's meant to go in. [00:08:00] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. And so that has a lot of. What's the word for looks at values and it looks at what do you value? And that's what ethics are like, do you value kindness? Do you value generosity? And doing things ethically is in a lot. Is in relation to your values a lot of the time. And so, you know, when we walked in the door, the presenter that's on before us, Nick, he's like, oh, I'm gonna open the door for you. And we were having a little chat about how, you know, that doesn't happen a lot of a lot these days. Chivalry doesn't happen, which is, you know, where someone might open the door for you. And we're talking about how, you know, in today's day and age, he doesn't always feel comfortable opening doors for people because people may take it the wrong way. But, yeah, we were talking about those values that he has, that, like a traditional value of just being kind and opening a door and how that's changed over time. [00:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And like. [00:09:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I went on a little tangent there, didn't I? But, yeah. And then when we were looking at storybooks, like, we just looked at one in particular. We read you were looking for, like. [00:09:32] Speaker B: A Dr. Seuss book. Like two Dr. Seuss books. And then I told you, like, broke the news to you that we only have three Dr. Seuss books, none of the one that you want. [00:09:43] Speaker C: Yes, yes. [00:09:44] Speaker B: And then in the end, we just. You read to us Goldilocks and the Free Three Bears. And that has a lot of ethics in it. Like, that. The whole book is ethics around about. [00:09:59] Speaker C: Yeah. The ethical concerns of, you know, she pushed open a door that she had knocked on. Like, and then she walked in. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah. And then just. That was. [00:10:12] Speaker C: That was not ethical for her to do. [00:10:14] Speaker B: And then she broke an entrance. Yep. She ate someone's, like, people's food and, like. [00:10:28] Speaker C: And then broke the chair. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Broke the chair. [00:10:31] Speaker C: And then what did she do when the bears got home? [00:10:35] Speaker B: Just ran home. [00:10:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:36] Speaker B: And. And then never came back. And, like, if you do do something like that, it's. It's better to just to like, apologize, leave a note, leave some oats, more porridge, or like, like bring a chair. Like, like a replacement for the chair. Like, it's just not ethical just to break an entrance and use people's things and break them and then just run home. [00:11:09] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Like, it's sort of understandable. Like, bears are scary, but, like, it's still not okay. [00:11:16] Speaker C: Yeah. No. Like, even if it was a little mouse that you were doing it to and like, they're not scary, it still doesn't make it okay, does it? [00:11:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:26] Speaker C: So it doesn't matter who it is. And that's what ethics is. It doesn't matter who is having those values and having that respect for someone else and choosing the right thing to do. [00:11:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:40] Speaker C: So the reason why I was looking for those books was because I was looking for books that had themes. Themes that around ethics and that you. [00:11:50] Speaker B: Can teach us kind of thing. [00:11:52] Speaker C: Have discussions about ethics. And little miss here, she got. She got into it as well. And understanding ethics as well. So it's a very easy topic to talk about. Especially when we start with, like, a storybook and. Yeah, we enjoyed that. Shall we head to a song? [00:12:12] Speaker B: We shall. This is Seven Nation army by the White Stripes. [00:12:16] Speaker C: I like this. [00:12:17] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. [00:12:21] Speaker B: IPL radio that was unstoppable by SIA. [00:12:25] Speaker C: I am unstoppable. Did you see my dad's moves? [00:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:30] Speaker C: And an hour grooving in the studio. [00:12:32] Speaker B: That was fun. Yeah. And now it is time for dad Jokes, one of one of our most regular segments. [00:12:43] Speaker C: So. [00:12:46] Speaker B: I've got three jokes for you. Okay. [00:12:49] Speaker C: Okay, We've got N on air now. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:51] Speaker C: Hello, madam. You gonna say hello to everyone? [00:12:55] Speaker B: Hello. This is the family show. [00:12:59] Speaker C: Good job. Okay, we are going to listen to some dad jokes. Are you ready? All right. As usual, I have none prepared for you. [00:13:08] Speaker B: I have one dad joke. [00:13:10] Speaker C: Okay, well, let's listen to Toby first, and then you can show your dad joke. [00:13:13] Speaker B: I know 25 letters of the Alphabet. [00:13:16] Speaker C: But there's 26. [00:13:20] Speaker B: But I just don't know why. [00:13:26] Speaker C: Dear Amy, your R teacher needs to teach you that letter. Oh, those eyebrows just went off. You're funny. [00:13:35] Speaker B: My dream job is to clean mirrors. [00:13:40] Speaker C: Fantastic. I've got plenty of those at home for you to clean because I can. [00:13:43] Speaker B: Really see myself doing that. [00:13:49] Speaker C: Oh, goodness. [00:13:50] Speaker B: I don't trust stairs. [00:13:52] Speaker C: You don't trust what? [00:13:54] Speaker B: Stairs. [00:13:55] Speaker C: Why? [00:13:56] Speaker B: They're always up to something. [00:14:00] Speaker C: They sure are. Oh, deary me. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Right? [00:14:06] Speaker C: And do you have a joke for our dad joke segment? [00:14:09] Speaker B: Yep. What type of chocolate do planes have? What? Plain. Did you make that one up by yourself? [00:14:22] Speaker C: No. You got that from somewhere. It's a good one. I like it. Although I do enjoy plain chocolate. [00:14:30] Speaker B: Yeah? [00:14:31] Speaker C: Yeah. What's your favorite chocolate? [00:14:33] Speaker B: Probably dark or. [00:14:35] Speaker C: Yeah, you're crazy. Or fridge chocolate. [00:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And then also, that's how you make. [00:14:41] Speaker C: Sure mum doesn't eat your chocolate. [00:14:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And then also, what was that like chocolate that has chocolate on the outside and then jelly in the middle. [00:14:50] Speaker C: Turkish delight. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah. My favorite. Those. That's my favorite type of chocolate. [00:14:57] Speaker C: Yeah, you can have all of those because I don't like those. [00:15:01] Speaker B: I remember how I went when I used to eat Hunt on my gymnastics marshmallow one. Oh, yeah. It was so tasty. Yeah. [00:15:10] Speaker C: So tasty. [00:15:11] Speaker B: It made me feel sick. That marshmallow one. Oh, you could have let me eat it. [00:15:18] Speaker C: Shall we head to a song? What have we got lined up? [00:15:22] Speaker B: Thunderstruck by ACDC. [00:15:24] Speaker C: Oh, nice choice. [00:15:26] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. IPL radio. [00:15:32] Speaker B: Okay, that was Wonderwall by Oris. [00:15:35] Speaker C: Oasis. [00:15:36] Speaker B: Oasis. [00:15:37] Speaker C: One of my favorite songs. I love that song. So we are here live from IPL Radio Rockingham. We are the family show. Toby and Amy. Oh, sorry, I said your name. Sorry. And today we've been talking a little bit about ethics because we've been learning a little bit about ethics. So I have a few you questions for you to continue on that discussion. [00:16:05] Speaker B: I'm listening with my headphones, not my ears. [00:16:10] Speaker C: Well, you're still listening to your ears. [00:16:12] Speaker B: Yeah, true. [00:16:13] Speaker C: Yeah, true. All right, so I'm gonna fire some questions for you, and you're going to answer the questions. Are you ready? [00:16:21] Speaker B: Are there questions Wait, just wait. Are there questions that are going to be easy or. [00:16:26] Speaker C: I. Well, well, sometimes ethically, it's hard to make a decision, isn't it? Because it's between what's right and sometimes doing the right thing is hard. So it's. It's to do with ethics. So this is the type of questions that I've got for you. All right, so the first question is, if you saw a classmate cheat or saw someone cheat, what would you do? [00:16:58] Speaker B: Raise my hand and say, hey, he's cheating. Oh. [00:17:04] Speaker C: And why would you do that? [00:17:06] Speaker B: Because it's the wrong thing to cheat. [00:17:09] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. And is it the right thing to do on them? [00:17:15] Speaker B: Well, they are doing the wrong thing. Yeah. [00:17:20] Speaker C: Yeah. But it's not hurting you. Yeah. Do you know what I would probably do? [00:17:26] Speaker B: What? [00:17:27] Speaker C: I would probably not raise my hand and blurt it out to the whole class. I'd probably go quietly to the teacher and tell the teacher. [00:17:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd still tell. [00:17:39] Speaker C: I'm with you on that one. I would just. My approach would be different so that I'm not blurting it out to the whole class. [00:17:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:46] Speaker C: Yeah. But I think you're right. It's not fair if someone's cheating on a. On a test or cheating on anything. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Really. Yeah, it's not fair. [00:18:00] Speaker C: Is it okay to lie to protect someone's feelings? Like, don't tell someone the truth if you're scared it's going to upset them. Is it okay to lie? [00:18:10] Speaker B: Not overly, but it's. It's. It's like it's still good to make sure they're like. If they're already, like, upset right in the moment that you about to tell them, but then realize, wait, that might hurt their feelings even more kind of thing. So, yeah, I'm not sure. These are questions that are, like, more for adults. [00:18:35] Speaker C: Oh, these one. These ones were for kids. No, but it is. It's a. It's a hard thing to do, isn't it? And that's why ethics is. Sometimes it's easy to know what to do and the right thing to do. But these are about your values, you know, do you value telling the truth or do you value not hurting someone's feelings more? Which. Which one's more important to you? And that's why. That's why doing things ethically sometimes is really, really hard. [00:19:06] Speaker B: I think telling the truth is probably better. [00:19:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so, too, because eventually it's going to come out, isn't it? [00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:12] Speaker C: And it's just going to hurt them more later. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it's it's been holding on. [00:19:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:19] Speaker B: So. Yeah. [00:19:20] Speaker C: Yeah. I think telling the truth is all. And, you know, in our house, I have that. That strong value of telling the truth, don't I? Like. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Yeah. You're like, tell the truth. [00:19:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, what, are you going to get more in trouble for something that you've done wrong or lying to me? [00:19:36] Speaker B: Lying. [00:19:37] Speaker C: Yeah. The second that you're lying, that's. That's it. That's big. No, no. [00:19:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Get angry at us and go, like, out there. You lie to me. [00:19:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Because I value honesty. And so that's where, you know, you. I'm gonna get more angry at you lying than you owning up to it. Something than. Yeah. [00:19:57] Speaker B: Like. [00:19:59] Speaker C: Right. Are you ready? [00:19:59] Speaker B: Yep. [00:20:00] Speaker C: The next one. Can something be legal? It be. You're allowed to do it by law but still be wrong. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Yes. [00:20:12] Speaker C: Correct. I think so, too. I was thinking about this the other day when we're talking about ethics, because one of the times that I. Ethics was very loud and clear to me when I was younger was someone said to me, I was at work, and I said, like, this customer came in and said, there's too many people here. And I said, legally, we're. That's enough. Like, we've got the right amount of people here. And this customer turned around and said, just because it's legal doesn't make it ethical. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:47] Speaker C: And I was like, you are so right that there were. There were too many people there. But legally, it was within the law for me to have that many people there. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:58] Speaker C: Yeah. So, yeah, you're right. Something can be legal and still wrong. Can two people both be right even if they disagree? [00:21:10] Speaker B: Yes. [00:21:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:12] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:21:12] Speaker C: We had a discussion about that this morning with your sister, didn't we? No one was wrong but you. You didn't agree on the same thing. Thing. And that was okay. And then we had a discussion about, you know, how can we support both of you because neither of you were wrong, and how can we support both of you? [00:21:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:34] Speaker C: Yeah. We had a discussion about this morning, and last question, tricky question. Why should we do the right thing even if no one's watching? [00:21:45] Speaker B: Because it's the right thing to do. [00:21:47] Speaker C: Yeah. And I don't know if I touched on this word with you, but there's this amazing word that I love, and it's called integrity. And it's exactly that. Doing the right thing even when no one's watching. [00:22:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And. And that's humble, like humber. [00:22:05] Speaker C: Humbling. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Like when we did our Walt Disney topic yeah, that was like our best topic yet. [00:22:14] Speaker C: That was your favorite? [00:22:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Like his brother took on like no one, like no one was watching that. He took over after Walt died. [00:22:32] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. And he took no credit for it. He, he gave all the credit to Walt Disney because that was his business. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you for having a chat with me about ethics today because I, I love this topic. We are going to go to a song and then we're going to do our last regular segment for the day. What song are we going to head to? [00:23:00] Speaker B: Holiday by Green Day. [00:23:03] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. IPL radio. [00:23:08] Speaker B: That was Holiday by Green Day. And this is the family show on IPL Radio. My name is Toby. [00:23:15] Speaker C: I'm Amy. And we are at the last regular segment of our show which is Let learn Italian. [00:23:25] Speaker B: Yes, come learn. Let's learn Italian. [00:23:28] Speaker C: Yes. With the hand. Bellissimo. [00:23:31] Speaker B: What does that even mean? [00:23:34] Speaker C: Beautiful. I think something like that. Now I need to look it up. It's like, it's good. So we are going to learn some Italian on air and then we're going to post it on our socials later so that you can continue to practice just like we do. So first up is ethics. [00:23:57] Speaker B: I can't remember. [00:24:00] Speaker C: Ethica. [00:24:01] Speaker B: Ethica. [00:24:02] Speaker C: Is it Ethica or Etika? [00:24:03] Speaker B: Let's find out. [00:24:05] Speaker C: I think it's. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:08] Speaker C: And then it was thank you. Which is Grazia and you're welcome. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Prego. [00:24:18] Speaker C: Prairiel. So. [00:24:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:24:27] Speaker C: And it was ethical for if you're a male. So it's Etika if you're a female and ethical is if you're a male. [00:24:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:37] Speaker C: And that was for ethics. And then we'll go over what was thank you again. [00:24:43] Speaker B: Prayer. No, no. [00:24:45] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:24:48] Speaker B: Grazia. Grazia. [00:24:50] Speaker C: Grazia is thank you in Italian. And what is your welcome? [00:24:56] Speaker B: Prego. [00:24:57] Speaker C: Prego. Absolutely. [00:24:58] Speaker B: And I, I love how I said at this segment like. [00:25:05] Speaker C: Yeah, oh yes. With the eyebrows and all. Not just the hand. Today it was the eyebrows. Well that brings end of our show today. So if you have joined us, thank you so much because we had. Well, I had fun. Did you have fun? Yes, yes. I, I. [00:25:26] Speaker B: I was on the pump today. Like I was like, oh, I don't know the answer to that question. No. [00:25:34] Speaker C: Well, they are some tricky questions. And that's, that's ethics for you. Yeah, it's, there's no clear cut right and wrong. It comes down to values sometimes, I think. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you for joining us. If you are looking for our dad jokes or our Italian. Or if you are a homeschooler and would like the learning summary that I sometimes try and do each week. Where can our listeners head to for all of those details? [00:26:12] Speaker B: The family show--IPL radio on both Facebook and Instagram. Instagram. Jinx. [00:26:18] Speaker C: Don't jinx me. And then we'll post those eventually. Hopefully by Friday, right? [00:26:24] Speaker B: Yeah, hopefully. [00:26:26] Speaker C: All right. Well, have a lovely afternoon. [00:26:29] Speaker B: This is Yellow by Coldplay. [00:26:32] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. IPL radio.